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  5/23/05 KM Article "Jehovah's Day is Near"

  by TheListener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  to be covered during service meetings week of 5/23/05.. q&a.

  1. christians ardently desire the coming of jehovah's day, through which he will destroy the present system of things and usher in a new world of righteousness.

  (2 peter 3:12,13, ftn.

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  Now, this nonsense about the UN being the "8th world power" is nothing more than a conspiracy theory and not even a conspiracy theory that is unique to the WTBS. In fact there are many fundamentalists who have made similiar claims about the UN being in league with the devil or having to do with Biblical prophecy. I don't see any reason for believing any of those claims. I don't believe these claims because [1] I am skeptical of the Bible and belief in God and [2] because if I did believe in either of these, I still wouldn't believe any of these allegations. Here's what Article 1 of the United Nations Charter has to say:

  The Purposes of the United Nations are:

  1. To maintain international peace and security, and to that end: to take effective collective measures for the prevention and removal of threats to the peace, and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace, and to bring about by peaceful means, and in conformity with the principles of justice and international law, adjustment or settlement of international disputes or situations which might lead to a breach of the peace;

  2. To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;

  3. To achieve international co-operation in solving international problems of an economic, social, cultural, or humanitarian character, and in promoting and encouraging respect for human rights and for fundamental freedoms for all without distinction as to race, sex, language, or religion; and

  4. To be a centre for harmonizing the actions of nations in the attainment of these common ends.

  [This is from: http://www.un.org/aboutun/charter/]

  Now where in any of these clauses do you see any ambition to become a monistic world power? All I see the rescipe for an international organization committed to improving relations among nations. It is a commitee, not a government. And like I said before, the UN does not have any power. It does not have a standing army and neither are there any "international laws" because there is no way to enforce them.

  In conclusion, all this speculation about the UN is unfounded. It is the unverified speculation of fundamentalists and conspiracy theorists. It is an international organization committed to diplomacy, not a evil cabal of devil worshipers. I wish you well Flash, but I hope you reconsider your beliefs.
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  5/23/05 KM Article "Jehovah's Day is Near"

  by TheListener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  to be covered during service meetings week of 5/23/05.. q&a.

  1. christians ardently desire the coming of jehovah's day, through which he will destroy the present system of things and usher in a new world of righteousness.

  (2 peter 3:12,13, ftn.

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  Generic Man

  Hi Flash,

  I've read both your comment here, as well as your profile and I'm puzzled. In your profile you say this:

  "I believe the Witnesses are God's people but like the Israelites of Jesus day, the Witnesses, especialy their leaders (the GB and their supporters) have left the love Christ laid out and are 'lording it over His congregation'... I still worship Jehovah but as an INDIVDUAL. I live be HIS standards and not by the standards of elitist men." [italics are mine]

  Here you say that the Governing Body and their supporters "have left the love of Christ." This statement implies that there was some time in the past where they were on the right and then strayed from what has been taught in the Bible. My question is since when were they ever on the right course? Was it during C.T. Russell's reign with his many false predictions and flights of fancy? Or was it during the reign of Rutherford, Knorr, Franz, or the beginning of the Governing Body in the 70's? When was the organization ever not a dictatorship that surpressed disent of any kind? Russell was not as bad as the latter leaders of the WTBS, but that's not saying much. Russell decieved himself and others with his own grandiose falsehoods. Based on what I've read in the older publications and how they relate to what is currently taught, there is no reason to believe that the Jehovah's Witness belief system is true.
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  What's currently on your DVD / Video shelf?

  by Preston in

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  here's a few of mine:.

  donnie darko, madonna's drowned world tour, o, lucky man!, mulholland drive, hedwig and the angry inch, andrei rublev, blue velvet, once upon a time in the west, the brak show!, the ali g how, the godfather, nostalghia, flowers of shanghai, kwaidan.... what's on yours.... - preston

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  Dr.Strangelove by Kubrick

  Paths of Glory also by Kubrick

  Brazil by Terry Gilliam

  Psycho by Hitchcock

  Blade Runner by Ridley Scott

  Or almost anything by the directors mentioned.
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  perpetual terminal disease

  by stevenyc in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  ok, i've been living with hiv for the past four years.

  it's been very tough.

  i've seen the signs in a foot infection, lumps on my tongue, having to get moles removed because they were spreading and getting larger, two years ago i caught the cold twice in the same year, feeling my lymphatic system working overload, to name but a few.

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  I hope that you can overcome hypochondria. Keep in mind though, that hypochondria could be like OCD and somewhat hereditary. Then again, I'm not a medical doctor. I still hope things get better though.
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  Simese Jehovahs Witness Turns Apostate

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, lets say you were born attached at the shoulder of your twin.

  your mom raises yer sorry arse as a dub and you both grow up knockin on doors together..........then you turn into an apostate heathen bastard.

  how does the witness one go to the meetings and out in service....and how do you the poor apostate bastard go to apostafests and stuff?

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  The other twin would have one hell of a time trying to live a double life and an even harder time trying to register at JWD. But the WTBS twin would need another witness in order to have the other brought before the elders.
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  Four Years Ago Today, May 28, 2001

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i made my first post on jwd and was ignored.. .

  i was so afraid.

  i was still attending meetings and my husband had no idea i was posting on an apostate site.. much has changed; we are both inactive faders and much happier.. thanks to all of you along the way that shed light on the darkness in my life.. love, blondie

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  Congratulations Blondie. You've managed to be a regular and beloved poster on this board. Too bad I'm too lazy to post that many posts. I have a hard time thinking of something to say for two posts.
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  Witnesses and alcoholism

  by Grace in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my jw husband has made me promise to let him die rather than approve a blood transfusion because of bible doctrine; however, the same bible speaks against alcoholism and drunkeness and yet he continues to drink and sometimes gets absolutely smashed.. last night we were at a non-jw staff party for my place of employment, and he lost any shred of dignity through his heavy drinking.

  we got home at 3 a.m. and he jumped out of bed at 8:20 and said, "i have to get to book study; i'm reading today.

  (it behooves me how he can do this time and again without even taking so much as an asparin!).

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  "Last night we were at a non-JW staff party for my place of employment, and he lost any shred of dignity through his heavy drinking."

  So he is associating with "worldly people" and getting wasted. In spite of this, he insists on obeying the most arbitrary and dangerous doctrines the WTBS has to offer.
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  What Silly Things Do JWs Woo & Ahhh Over?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  witnesses are a special breed.

  did you ever see how excited they get when they are driving to a convention and spot a fellow jw?

  they get so excited!

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  When a governing body member comes to give a talk at the convention. The room is so silent and every body is so focused on what this guy is saying that you can hear a pin drop. Then this old guy gives another dull, familiar talk and every body is in awe afterwards.
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  Did anybody see Tom Cruise on Access Hollywood today?

  by JV in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm flipping through the channels today and i happend upon a 30 min interview with mr cruise.

  i was curious and there was nothing else on so i decided to watch it.

  this was a 30 minute advertisement for scientology.

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  "He's on some sort of mission against anti-depressants like paxil and zoloft and he's totally against psychologists for some reason."
  

  The reason for this is because Scientology has always been against psychiatry since the 60's when it was concieved by Hubbard. There was alot of people and organizations who were against psychiatry in those days. From what I've read, many people argued against psychiatry from a leftist/libertarian ideology, while Scientologists claim that psychiatry is "spiritually hazardous." Tom Cruise is a Scientologist because he believes it helped him with dyslexia (spelling?). Scientologists have to spend tons of cash in order to perform rituals in order to have better spiritual health. All of their beliefs are these convoluted concepts described with pseudo-scientific language.
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  Are you an atheist?

  by hibiscusfire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  why are we here?

  what is the purpose of life?

  an atheist has many questions but no answers.. .

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  Here's my position. I don't think there are any good arguments for either theism or atheism, so I must not accept either of them and be agnostic. From what I have observed, it seems that people usually don't become either theists or atheists because of any argument, but for personal reasons. When I see people arguing about such a complicated issue online, I don't see much argumentation but instead a clash of conflicting intuitions and some name-calling now and then. Here's a link to an essay by the philosopher Graham Oppy that more or less reflects my stance on the issue and he better describes this position than I ever could:

  http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/graham_oppy/agnostic.html